Atorvastatin Patient Views

Same here, Atorvastatin did wonders for me! One of the few things that actually helped me and had a noticeably effect (less fatigue, less palpitations, less leg pain). Still not recovered but it’s definitely worth a shot.

(Downvotes coming from the apes who read too much conspiracy theories)

Atorvastatin 20mg, once a day.

I took it for a week and already had huge improvements. There are studies here in Germany suggesting that statins are actually helpful for people who developed a lipid metabolism disorder due to COVID and can contribute to recovery. Statins are even on the off-label and in-label use list that was just released by the government a few weeks ago.

Edit: I am still taking it.

Those awful statins... Hi, folks; thanks for the protective advice about the terrible side effects of statins. I am aware of them. But let's not be paranoid and let's look at some recorded facts. If you have documented CAD, as I do, they may have their place. Two docs have recorded success in stopping and reversing CAD: Ornstein, using diet and meditation and exercise, and Esselstyn, using a stricter diet and low dose statins. After over 20 years both groups are still doing well, but Esselstyn's are doing better as a group. If low dose (and my dose is very very low) helps protect me from any CAD progression, and simultaneously MAY help a bit in inhibiting viral replication, that seems to me a reasonable trade off for the remote chance of some undesirable side effect. I may reconsider, I may rely on those sitosterols to do the same job more safely; but I don't think that 10 mg Lipitor every second day is likely to do dramatic damage. Best, Alex

Hi, all; I appreciate your concern over this idea, but as I tried to make clear, I am not taking my mini dose of Lipitor because of Dr. TI was going to post on this imminently, but he beat me to the punch. My decision was triggered by the same essay that he saw, and I have now been taking it for a couple of months or so, and so far the results seem good rather than bad. You dont have to love Dr. T, but dont blame him for my decision. I have been doing a bit more research, and as you might expect the picture is not very clear: there is, for instance, a paper by by Chung, Atorvastatin [Lipitor] does not exhibit antiviral activity against HCV at conventional doses: a pilot clinical trial -April 2007; PMID: 17393518. Not encouraging. But there is another paper, by Kato, Different anti-HCV profiles of statins and their potential for combination therapy with interferon July 2006, PMID: 16799963that suggests that Atorvastatin and Simvastatin exhibit good viral inhibition, and that Pravastatin does not exhibit any. That interests me a lot, and here is why. I had heart surgery for a stenotic aortic valve and one 75% blocked cardiac artery in Sept. 2004, unexpected after 71 very active and healthy years. Made a good recovery and was put on 20 mg Lipitor and other stuff. In a few months I was back walking uphill, cycling, etc. Probably cut my Lipitor to 10 mg but kept it going till late 2005, when I quit. Soon after I had an episode of chest pain, raised BP, and for the first time premature ventricular beats. Went back on Lipitor and symptoms quieted down over the next few months. August 2006 moved from Montreal to Victoriadrove across with a friend; when here, biked, walked miles, kayaked a bitfit and healthy. My new doc suggested I quit Lipitor, and I was happy to agree. After a fluey bug in Nov, came down in early December with chest pain, raised BP, etc. stopped Lipitor for 4 weeks because my doc wanted assurance I was not suffering statin myopathy before referring me to a cardiologist; I did not improve. Saw a cardio, went back on Lipitor, improved, won back most of my energy only to switch to Pravastatin and then slowly lose it again. Eventually I realized that I had CFS. So there is a story here; I assume as a working hypothesis that I had a reactivation of some bugEB? XMRV picked up by transfusion during surgery? that Lipitor helped keep under control. Statins also help balance the autonomic nervous system towards parasympathetic tone. So I have a history that supports the hypothesis that Lipitor (but not so well Pravastatin) help me in various ways; I dont know how much this is due to viral inhibition and how much to autonomic nervous modulation. I have been slow to really see and act on this pattern, partly because I can tell this story in several waysthe pattern I lay out here is just one option, so to speak. But I was triggered into giving it another try by that essay, and I will keep going for a while unless some untoward event cuts the experiment short. As I said, I am also taking AHCC (Klimas approved immune modulator) and intermittent Artesunate. I dont know which is doing what, but my impression is that the statin may be helping along with the others. And I would rather take low dose Lipitor than AZT. So I think with Dr. T. that there may be an interesting possibility here. Not pushing it at anyone, just putting it out there. Best wishes, the patient

Hi, all; I was going to post on this, but Dr. T. has beaten me to it, so here is the website on which he discusses this finding that statins may be a very useful method of virus control, despite the general feeling that they are probably counterindicated for CFS because they do damage mitochondria. I am intrigued, because I have resumed very low dose statin use (Lipitor, 10 mg every second day) for a couple of months now, and am improving. But my experience should be interpreted in the light of the facts that I have also been taking AHCC and a highly bioavailable form of Curcumin (AOR) and intermittent Artesunate; as always, I don't know what has been doing what. My latest cholesterol reading was very low indeed (112 total, 59 LD, 39 HD), and I have been on a very low fat basically vegetarian diet for quite some time. I took low dose statins for a few years until about 2 1/2 years ago, when I realized I had CFS, and then stopped. My cholesterol used to be pretty good on low dose statin with a more mixed diet around 150-160 total but has never been this low before. I think the theory is worth checking out—you will find it on Dr. T.'s email newsletter, and doubtless now on his website. I would be very interested in any relevant experience others may have had or are now having, particularly the recommendation for Pregnenalone, which is not available in Canada. Best, Alex

My child started seeing improvements around 4 weeks and this corresponded with a decrease of 30-60% in most of the cytokines at 6 weeks. Getting ready to do 12 week cytokine testing in a few weeks. 10 mg atorvastatin/300 mg maraviroc/day. Lots of people respond to this but obviously some do not. At least some of the people who don't respond have reactivations of Epstein-Barr/CMV etc and those can be treated. Personally, I think there may be at least two groups of patients. Those with autoinflammation and those with autoantibodies. It is very interesting that Patterson claims his treatment works for 80% and Berlin Cures says BC007 will help the 20% of longhaulers who test positive for functional autoantibodies. Could certainly be coincidence. If you tested high for cytokines then you have inflammation. Some people take longer to respond to this protocol. I would give it more time as there aren't a lot of good options.

i’m so sorry, i try to discourage people from engaging with those places. Rest as much as you can, try to get prescribed atorvastatin and Maraviroc for the Patterson Protocol, or try nicotine patches or Low Dose Naltrexone. I’m in the same boat but i have improved a bit. 15 days of paxlovid helped my brain fog a ton, highly recommend.

Very good information to know a forum member. Muscle problems as a result of taking Statins seems to be a dirty little secret that the medical world likes to downplay or avoid talking about. Just as they like to tell patients that it's rare. Strange that I've heard so many complain about it. My father took Statins and would have to stop taking them because of the muscle problems. Then start taking them again because of his high cholesterol. Near the end of his life he had to take time released Niacin when he was off of the Statins.

Hi everyone

I'm looking for anyone who is currently or has been on the Maraviroc + Statin protocol, to hear about their experiences.

I'm currently on week 6 and have felt absolutely no change, we originally were going to do the full 3 months but I'm unsure if the 3rd month is even worth the cost (it's very expensive) if nothing has happened at all yet.

Any of us with known mitochondrial disease or any that suspect it should take extreme care with statins. Most mitochondrial disease patients already have very low levels of CoQ-10, and taking statins reduces those levels with devastating effect. The patient took statins for high cholesterol back in 2006 and was bedridden for a 3-month period while on them. At the time, the patient thought it was another crash. In hindsight, it was the first true sign of mitochondrial problems. Be very, very careful with high doses of anything off-label and untested. It makes perfect sense that Dr. T is behind this crazy trial; he's more dangerous than doing nothing.